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i too am tired of the talk but on the flip side, it gets blood boiling and gets people creative to find new and better ways to do things so to keep people motavated(SP) to move forward in R&D.
RIC my spelling sux, damn texas schools AIM "NINnNINTY9" 1993 Onix Black over Tan NA "give a man a fish, he eats for a day. teach him how to fish, he eats for a life time." so use the site tools(search,FAQ,TECH) or get a smarta** answer or a VTDed(not just from me) hehe 
 FLA(Tampa), GA(Macon), & Tex(San Antonio)
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